Comments on: The divided left http://tygerland.net/2006/07/04/the-divided-left/ occasionally acerbic, cultural and political comment Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:50:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: tygerland.net » Why the leftwing blogs should stop whining http://tygerland.net/2006/07/04/the-divided-left/#comment-12601 tygerland.net » Why the leftwing blogs should stop whining Mon, 13 Nov 2006 12:57:31 +0000 http://tygerland.net/?p=717#comment-12601 [...] Over the last couple of months there have many left-wing bloggers who have rued the left’s inability to mimic the perceived success of Conservative bloggers such as Guido Fawkes and Iain Dale. Mike Ion wrote a stirring piece back in September, which rather reminded me of a similar article I wrote back in July, in that it seeks to highlight the division and absence of discipline in the leftwing blogosphere. Yet, the more I think about it, the more I think we’re stronger than we think. [...] [...] Over the last couple of months there have many left-wing bloggers who have rued the left’s inability to mimic the perceived success of Conservative bloggers such as Guido Fawkes and Iain Dale. Mike Ion wrote a stirring piece back in September, which rather reminded me of a similar article I wrote back in July, in that it seeks to highlight the division and absence of discipline in the leftwing blogosphere. Yet, the more I think about it, the more I think we’re stronger than we think. [...]

]]> By: tyger http://tygerland.net/2006/07/04/the-divided-left/#comment-1054 tyger Fri, 07 Jul 2006 05:51:38 +0000 http://tygerland.net/?p=717#comment-1054 No worries Tom, it's a good blog. Good points you raise above. No worries Tom, it’s a good blog.

Good points you raise above.

]]> By: Tom http://tygerland.net/2006/07/04/the-divided-left/#comment-1049 Tom Thu, 06 Jul 2006 22:54:34 +0000 http://tygerland.net/?p=717#comment-1049 The same problem bedevils us all; we have a systemic problem and there are no proposals to remedy the system. We have expectations that a given person can work within the system as designed and make it all work, if we just find that right person. We have expectations that a new party can make things happen. And around the margins, that's true. Unfortunately, on a macro scale that largely defies our experience. Changing faces, nameplates and ruling party banners within the same rules & incentives system is only cosmetic. The fresh new members either get corrupted or marginalized. We need a pragmatic discussion of first principles and a means to implement, not frustrate, the widespread consensus views. We need to put aside grandiose theory's and ideology's, and look to empirical results. Elitists should be overwhelmed by democratic participation and effective implementation. We need new governments. PS: thanks for your kind review. The same problem bedevils us all; we have a systemic problem and there are no proposals to remedy the system. We have expectations that a given person can work within the system as designed and make it all work, if we just find that right person. We have expectations that a new party can make things happen. And around the margins, that’s true. Unfortunately, on a macro scale that largely defies our experience. Changing faces, nameplates and ruling party banners within the same rules & incentives system is only cosmetic. The fresh new members either get corrupted or marginalized. We need a pragmatic discussion of first principles and a means to implement, not frustrate, the widespread consensus views. We need to put aside grandiose theory’s and ideology’s, and look to empirical results. Elitists should be overwhelmed by democratic participation and effective implementation. We need new governments.

PS: thanks for your kind review.

]]> By: Jose http://tygerland.net/2006/07/04/the-divided-left/#comment-921 Jose Wed, 05 Jul 2006 06:12:16 +0000 http://tygerland.net/?p=717#comment-921 In my view, the Left has been divided by insidious infiltration from the Right which seems every time more united. Blair and his New Labour are one of the most aberrant things I have seen of late. The problem is that the same problem is occurring all over Europe. Sometimes I think that the Socialism that is winning elections today is not that Socialism that derived from Marxist doctrines. It is a Socialism made in the image of Conservatism. In my view, the Left has been divided by insidious infiltration from the Right which seems every time more united.

Blair and his New Labour are one of the most aberrant things I have seen of late. The problem is that the same problem is occurring all over Europe.

Sometimes I think that the Socialism that is winning elections today is not that Socialism that derived from Marxist doctrines. It is a Socialism made in the image of Conservatism.

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